Monday, March 21, 2011
Wildwood School Aldermanic Debate March 22, 2011
New Information: One of the questions asked to the candidates was their knowledge of a flyer distributed to ward homes by an unregistered group identifying itself as "Chicago Citizens for an Ethical Government" alleging that Mary O'Connor's voter's registration card from 2004 listed her voting address as her business address (against voter regs). Gavin stated her campaign knew nothing about the flyer or the group sponsoring the flyer.
O'Connor stated Alderman Doherty was seen going door to door stuffing mailboxes with the flyers.
Additionally, O'Connor said that she was registered to vote via her business address in 2004, but has since changed her voting address to her residence.
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I saw the flier. I hope by disturbing you mean that O'Connor broke the law by registering to vote at her business. O'Connor's m.o. seems to be blame Doherty for every thing. Maybe he registered her at 7280 west Devon. She better hope the statute of limitations has run. Did O'Connor say it was not true?
ReplyDeleteWho saw Doherty going door to door with the flyers? I was a bit suspicious about where it was coming from but it seems like the facts on it were right. What was Mary's excuse for being registered to vote out of her business illegally? I was unable to attend the forum tonight.
ReplyDeleteSo, the outgoing alderman, Alderman Doherty, conjures up a phoney citizens group touting ethicals in goverment and accuses the opposing aldermanic candidate of less than ethical behavior? Give me a break. And Gavin says she knows nothing about it? OMG do these people think we are all stupid?
ReplyDeleteHahahaha
ReplyDeleteDoherty/Gavin are so busted. They look like idiots.
It's unpleasant to hear this stuff, especially about people we know in the community. But people need to know. Problematic voter registration - O'Connor said last night it was a "mistake". Statement that the Ward is giving back hundreds of thousands to the city -- O'Connor said at Res that it was a "mistake". And I haven't forgotten the article a few months back about the campaign contribution from a corrupt trucker banned from doing business with the city -- she told the Sun Times it was a "mistake". Ugly as it is, voters need to hear this and decide if it forms a pattern. Character counts.
ReplyDeleteT 4:32 A.M: O'Connor breaks the law and Doherty/Gavin are busted. Get some sleep 4:32 A.M. It is called voter fraud! If I were Gavin I would make sure it gets in every voters hands.
ReplyDeleteO'connor said she registered to vote at her place of business in 2004, and at the time didn't know she couldn't do that. Since then, she has changed her voting address to her home. She didn't deny it, just said it was a mistake.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, Gavin said she did send a volunteer downtown to the State Board of Elections to look up dirt on O'Connor.
Gavin is the weaker candidate, so we get the dirty creepy side of her coming out.
She didn't look like a victim last night. She looked like a slimy politician.
Gavin said she didn't know anything about the flyer. accusations etc, and then turned around and said she sent a volunteer downtown to dig up dirt.
ReplyDeleteAnd if she didn't know anything why did she pounce all over Mary? Gavin offered no explaination as to why her boss was hand delivering flyers to ward homes over the weekend. She told everyone to go ask the Alderman. She didn't care about the ethics of that.
SLIMY, SLIMY, SLIMY, SLIMY
O'Connor made a mistake in 2004, when she wasn't running for alderman.
Gavin is acting like a slimeball politician TODAY.
The room was up for grabs when Doherty/Gavin were outed.
ReplyDeleteBig mistake Gavin/Dorety. You were BUSTED
To 809 A.M Gavin sent some one to varify the information which is totally appropriate. Do you really beleive O'Connor did not know she could not register where she did not live. Folks, people get convicted of this kind of stuff. I bet she changed it when she ran for committeeman which would be around 2007 or 08. Does any one know what the statute of limitaions is for voter fraud (federal and state). O'Connor better hope the statute of limitations ran. I love O'Connor camp. They lie about Gavin and then cry foul when the truth comes out about O'Connor.
ReplyDeleteI wish a reporter would ask Doherty why he was stuffing constituent mailboxes over the weekend with literature from a fraudulant made up group for Gavin.
ReplyDeleteThis is what is lacking ethics TODAY.
O'Connor's registration from 2004 was all the dirt they could get on her? from 7 years ago. Grow up Gavin. Slimy campaign from the start.
So what if Doherty was handing out fliers. As long as the information is verified, voters have a right to know. It got this voter off the fence and for Gavin. I started out wanting change and voted for Murphey. I leaned O'Connor for run off and backed off when O'Connor started lying about Gavin's positions. This has moved me solidly Gavin.
ReplyDeleteOK Everyone: I think the issue is out there and how both sides think. From this point forward, I am not going to publish any more comments about it unless there is new information or unless the candidates want to send a an official comment.
ReplyDeleteMakes sense, moderator -- it's more heat than light at this point. Although a comment count indicates 2 to 1 favoring O'Connor...is that about the ratio of what you've received?
ReplyDeleteThere were a total of 14 comments. Two of the comments had details in them that indicated they were from a candidate. I don't have a problem posting them, but they should be sent from the candidate, and not anonymously. One was over the top.
ReplyDeleteTo person posting as an attorney:
ReplyDeletePer O'Connor's report at the debate.
Business license received the year 2000
Voter Registration Card in question dated year 2004
Call O'Connor campaign for details
Just out of curiosity, has the O'Connor camp gotten back to you about the $700,000 incident? I know you left a message, as did I. However, I have yet to hear anything back from them.
ReplyDeleteWhen did O'Connor get her liquor license?
ReplyDeleteO'Connor's "mistake" explanation makes no sense. As every voter knows you have to provide an I.D. with your address on it in order to register. I am looking at the flier and it shows O'Connor used her driver license or state I.D. for proof that she lived at 7280 west Devon when she registered. That means she went to the Secretary of state and changed her address to 7280 west devon before she registered to vote.
ReplyDeleteTo answer 10:28am - no
ReplyDeleteAlso, many comments from readers asking to see the flyer. Has anyone seen it on-line anywhere? If so, send us a comment and let us know where we can view it.
ReplyDeleteThanks
Mine was on my front porch. The Gavin campai--ahem--"Chicago Residents for Ethical Government" must have not had enough volunteers to cover the entire ward.
ReplyDeleteAnd if the O'Connor campaign office can't even answer phones or respond to messages/e-mails, how will it be when she actually takes office and isn't pandering for votes? Just a thought because I, as well, have not had 3 e-mails and 2 voicemails responded to.
ReplyDeleteok, I'm receiving dozens of emails from both sides about no one answering the phone and calls not being returned. Lets just say, from this moment forward, the issue is noted for both candidates and move on.
ReplyDeleteI saw the flyer and went to the debate thinking O'Connor had done something wrong. I actually feel pretty stupid now for falling for the flyer - even for a little while.
ReplyDeleteO'Connor wasn't necessarily smooth in the presentation of her own case, but her story holds together, and while she did something that was unlawful, does not appear to have done it for nefarious resasons. She was uncomfortable stating it, probably because it does break a law, but it sounds like she was getting all of her bills and other personal mail sent to the business address, which would make sense if that's where she spends her days, and that she switched her voter registration over to that address without stopping to appreciate there was a prohibition against doing that. I'm not sure I knew that, and I consider myself fairly well informed.
As to anyone who says there was something malicious about it (beyond it being a technical violation of the law, which is, yes, wrongful), please explain what motivation O'Connor would have for voting at the business address, as opposed to somewhere else. Am I missing something? The liquor license vote that supposedly benefited her was a vote of hundreds of people (or more) that one vote was not toing to change.
I think Gavin overplayed her hand. I was open to voting for her before this, perhaps even leaning toward it. Not anymore.
It was pretty humorous watching them go at it though. When O'Connor said, Donherty had been caught handing out flyers, I choked on my gum, it was so hilarious. What a funny world we live in that the alderman himself is out handing out these flyers. Got to love Chicago.