Tuesday, March 4, 2014

Where is Our Promised Airport Noise Meeting?

Have received a few requests to address:   "when the airport noise meeting promised by the alderman will be"...  I don't know.  But it doesn't hurt to call and ask the alderman "when the meeting will take place".  A couple people have sent me facebook messages stating they prefer an anonymous blog over a face book discussion about controversial topics, just so they can remain anonymous.  I agree.  Most people will actually tell you what they think knowing it won't be used against them in some way.  So here is the latest article about the airport noise debacle...  to little, to late, but let's see what the feds can offer us (or what we can demand) in terms of noise mitigation for our homes.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-02-18/news/chi-ohare-jetnoise-fight-gets-symbolic-nudge-from-county-official-20140218_1_o-hare-noise-silvestri-jet-noise/2

O'Hare jet-noise fight gets 'symbolic' nudge from county official

February 18, 2014|By Jon Hilkevitch | Tribune reporter
(Tribune illustration)
A Cook County commissioner plans to propose a resolution Wednesday calling for a mandatory “fly-quiet” program during overnight hours at O’Hare International Airport to address increasing jet noise from a new runway layout.
O’Hare’s 17-year-old fly-quiet guidelines are voluntary and run from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m. daily. They often are the last consideration of pilots, air-traffic controllers and airlines, whose primary focus is on safety, efficiency and passenger comfort, officials said.
Any move to make fly-quiet procedures mandatory would start with the city of Chicago, by conducting a study, Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Tony Molinaro said.
The Chicago Department of Aviation declined to comment Tuesday on the matter. City aviation officials have previously dismissed calls for changes that would restrict O’Hare’s flight capacity.
Cook County Commissioner Peter Silvestri, R-Elmwood Park, proposed the mandatory flight restrictions and said he realizes the county doesn’t have jurisdiction over O’Hare. His effort is aimed at facilitating “an effective dialogue’’ between Chicago officials and noise-weary residents of the city’s Northwest Side and nearby suburbs, he said.
“This is not legislation I am proposing. It is mostly symbolic,’’ Silvestri said. “But many elected officials on the Northwest Side support the resolution as a way to say let’s be fair in allocating O’Hare noise so that everybody is on the same footing.”
Silvestri’s move comes as City Council hearings on O’Hare noise requested last month by two Chicago aldermen, Mary O'Connor, 41st, and Margaret Laurino, 39th, haven’t been scheduled yet.
Ald. Michael Zalewski, 23rd, who is chairman of the council’s aviation committee, said Tuesday that he expects to hold the first hearing within the next two weeks. He said it has taken awhile to coordinate the schedules of officials who will testify, including members of the Illinois congressional delegation, experts from the Federal Aviation Administration and the Chicago Department of Aviation, major airlines as well as the public.
Zalewski was careful not to raise expectations of any quick solutions among residents who have suffered more noise, including in the overnight hours, since O’Hare flight patterns were changed last fall.
In reference to Silvestri’s proposal, Zalewski said: “I’m not sure if making fly-quiet absolutely mandatory is doable at this point. The new runways that have opened are designed to bring in planes in certain ways, based on safety and capacity issues. Making fly-quiet mandatory is not something that I think the FAA is willing to do at this point.”
O’Connor, vice chairman of the aviation committee, said Tuesday it’s important for the hearing to be “meaningful and productive.’’
“You want people there to answer the questions and direct us along an avenue of what we have to do next. And not delay it any more,’’ she said.
O’Connor said the issues are complicated by the fact that they require action by the federal government to revise the current noise contour standards to make more homeowners eligible for federal funding to receive noise-abatement insulation, or to require the airlines to retire noisier, older planes on an expedited timetable.
 
For the time being, residents of the 41st Ward “are just asking for a fair distribution’’ of flights to end the noise saturation over some areas, she said, adding, “I hope we are going in the right direction with these hearings.’’
The opening of a fourth east-west parallel runway at O’Hare last October marked a change in takeoff and landing patterns. The new air-traffic flow is generating more jet noise east and west of the airport and a noise reduction to the north and south of O’Hare.
The Chicago Department of Aviation’s voluntary fly-quiet guidelines for O’Hare’s airline pilots are in effect from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m. daily. The guidelines provide operating procedures for using preferred runways and nighttime flight tracks to route planes over the least-populated areas.
Chicago Aviation Commissioner Rosemarie Andolino has rejected proposals to expand those guidelines to start at 9 p.m.
Andolino also denied requests from community groups and members of the Illinois congressional delegation to work with the FAA to use more runways late at night as a way to spread jet noise over a wider area but subject individual areas to a net reduction in planes overhead.
Numerous efforts to restrict jet noise by communities near airports have been proposed over the years, but few mandatory programs have been enacted, according to the FAA.

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12 comments:

  1. I sent you one of those messages, I miss your blog. The meeting is long overdue. About two years overdue.

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  2. I get why you want to expand to facebook, but the reality is... people aren't going to post,

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  3. In a ward full of city workers... an anonymous blog is our only voice

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  4. Thanks for posting. Sunday nights are the worst. I was literally shaken out of bed at 3am last Sunday, WTF?. I couldn't go back to sleep and said to myself, I will vote for any aldermanic candidate who will have the guts to stand up to the mayor (who could care less about the 41st ward).

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  5. If you post on alderman's (41st) facebook page with comments that they don't agree with or you call them out on something such as the lack of snow plowing which can be proven with photos. To be a lie that they did in fact not plow. Guess what they do they un-friend you. Image that! The old City that Works here. I said nothing inappropriate, did not use foul language, nothing that would warrant me being un-friend by the very person or persons who I pay. I release this sounds like the same old same old but when I then sent a few private messages asking why I was un-friended or what I did wrong and why I could not at the very least be given a answer they just ignored me. So if you prove that in this case missed many streets at the beginning of the snow season they just say bye bye. Moral of the story no wonder people want to remain anonymous.

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    1. Queen Bee doesn't like it if you ask a challenging question or if you question her. We have no communication format with the O'Conner. She keeps everyone at arms length and her newsletters, web page and FB page say nothing.

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    2. so true. Thanks for the support to my comment!

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  6. I was unfriended for asking a question on the alderman's facebook page, too. If you notice, most of the comments are mindless. No comments with any substance. The alderman is threatened by people who can actually think.

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    1. glad to hear I'm not the only one. Also glad they cant control this (I hope so) Most of the comments are done by friends or staff no way you could have that many postive wonderful comments that are so sappy.............

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  7. Planes woke me up at 4am this morning. Am really tired of the noise. Do something!

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  8. 39th ward here, but I share you anger... I submit 10+ of those stupid 311 complaints a day. I have a little notepad that I jot down the times my windows really rattle, which is often, and enter the complaint in every other day. I figure if the numbers don't stay up, then the papers wont write about it, or worse, they'll start saying a reduction in complaints mean things are improving. I live 5800 N, right under a flight path, that also happens to be the one flight path in operation 24/7 (lucky me) with two additional flight paths a stone throw away; day in day out, constant buzzing and rumbling over head. Scratched a planned move into Sauganash area for bigger home/lot, since same planes buzz over them too. Now, I'm looking to leave Chicago altogether. There's only so much you can put up with, and not having a sanctuary to properly recharge is not healthy living.

    I've written repeatedly to: Mike Quigly and Tammy Duckworth (they sponsored Silent Skies Act that is a long shot in passing), City Hall, 39th Ward Alderman

    City Hall never responds. Alderman says we understand, but not our jurisdiction. Quigly and Duckworth both thanked me for my support and directed my attention to their recently sponsored Silent Skies Act.

    311 Ohare Noise Complaints: https://servicerequest.cityofchicago.org/web_intake_chic/Controller?op=csrform&restrict_loc=Y&invSRType=AVN

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